How I broke AI (and how it almost broke me).

As we approach Ash Wednesday and the 2026 Lenten season, Mako Fujimura’s vision of slow art, hospitality, and kenotic creativity invites us to resist the speed, fear, and fragmentation of this cultural moment by learning again how to pay attention, to rest, and to become people capable of holding one another with care even amid grief, violence, and uncertainty. In this conversation, fine artist Makoto Fujimura reflects on art, trauma, hospitality, and the slow practices that help us remain human in fractured times.
“I wanted this book to serve as a portal… to recognize something as maybe ordinary or as extraordinary as holding your granddaughter.”
Fujimura reflects on art as generativity, kenosis, and the healing practice of attention. Together they discuss slow art, Ground Zero and trauma, Japanese aesthetics and hospitality, dandelions and attention, Sabbath rest, and self-emptying love. And they explore how making art helps people remain human amid violence, polarization, and technological acceleration.
Mark Labberton hosts the Conversing podcast and is the Clifford L. Penner Presidential Chair Emeritus and Professor Emeritus of Preaching at Fuller Seminary.
Mako Fujimura is a contemporary artist, writer, and cultural thinker known for “slow art” rooted in Japanese Nihonga painting traditions.
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