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The Understory

In late May 2026, more than a thousand people gathered for three days beneath the vaults of Washington National Cathedral to ask what it means to be human in the light of Christ. This podcast carries the festival’s talks, sessions, and experiences to everyone who wasn’t in the room—and to everyone who was, who wishes to return.
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October 21, 20261h 2m

Renewal and the Academy: Reimagining Institutional Stewardship

We measure a forest by the height of its trees, but its future takes root lower,...
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    Shirley Hoogstra
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    Robin Baker
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    Shirley Mullen
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    Claude Alexander
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    Aaron Winkle
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October 14, 202642m

Deep Roots or Open Arms?

The deepest resources of the Christian tradition refuse the false binary of root...
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Conversing

Conversing with Mark Labberton invites listeners into transformative encounters with leaders and creators shaping our world at the intersection of Christian faith, culture, and public life.
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October 27, 202654m

Be Afraid or Fear Not?

What would it mean to fear rightly—to both fear God and “fear not,” to bot...
  • Kutter Callaway
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October 20, 20261h

Live Laugh Love Propaganda

There is a secret history of white Christian women, says historian Kristin Kobes...
  • Kristin Kobes Du Mez
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The Sacred

The Sacred is a podcast interested in the real people behind their public personas. Elizabeth Oldfield hosts unhurried conversations that go deeper, in search of what might heal our fractured world.
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October 21, 20261h 23m

What AI Reveals About Human Nature

What happens when the AI tools we use to make life easier start to change the wa...
  • Jamie Bartlett
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October 7, 202651m

Art, Friendship and Trust Across the Israeli-Palestinian Divide

What does it take to create a shared home in a divided city? In Jerusalem, two w...
  • Riman Barakat
  • Karen Brunwasser
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Zealots at the Gate

Muslim political thinker Shadi Hamid and Christian theologian Matthew Kaemingk explore the future of democracy and religion, charting a new paradigm for navigating difference.
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October 26, 20261h 11m

Evangelicals and Their Cultured Despisers

Join us as we talk with journalist and author Bonnie Kristian about her new book...
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October 12, 20261h 13m

Holy Feminism? Muslim and Christian Feminists Discuss

Leah Libresco Sargeant and Hadia Mubarak join Matt and Shadi to discuss what fem...
  • Leah Libresco Sargeant
  • Hadia Mubarak
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MATERIAL MYSTICISM

Matthew J. Milliner

The Puffins and Evelyn Underhill

Commending an ecclesial mystic on her sesquicentennial.

Matthew J. Milliner

Art Haters Anonymous

The art world is as secular as you want it to be.

Matthew J. Milliner

The Mary Underground

A global network of subterranean Marian churches illustrates a quiet, secret, lasting form of faith.

Ashley Lande

Decoy Enlightenment

An interview with Ashley Lande on psychedelics and Christianity.

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POPULAR ESSAYS

Matthew J. Milliner

Merton’s Nurse

How Mary helped rescue America’s most famous monk.

Kevin Gary

To the Bored All Things Are Boring

Are we busy and overstimulated because we’re bored, or are we bored because we’re busy and overstimulated?

Gregory Thompson

Hinges and a Lock

Hospitality in a world of predators.

Katherine Dee

Internet Overexposure Syndrome

A taxonomy of adaptations to online life.

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