Bearing ridicule well points to the wisdom of the cross.

Michael Wear talks about the state of politics in the United States and the ways our faith is interwoven with public life.
Mark Labberton hosts the Conversing podcast and is the Clifford L. Penner Presidential Chair Emeritus and Professor Emeritus of Preaching at Fuller Seminary.
Michael Wear is founder, president, and CEO of the Center for Christianity and Public Life.
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