Armenian letters are a threshold for participating in the sacred.

Historian and New York Times bestselling author Jemar Tisby joins Mark Labberton to confront the Supreme Court’s 6–3 ruling in Louisiana v. Callais, which has eviscerated Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act and reopened the door to racial gerrymandering across the South. Recorded in the immediate aftermath, the conversation traces the long arc from the Three-Fifths Clause and Dred Scott through Selma to this hour.
“This has landed in the black community harder and heavier than a lot of what we’ve seen during the Trump administration.”
In this episode with Mark Labberton, Tisby reflects on the history of black disenfranchisement, the cynicism of colorblind jurisprudence, and what remains of multiracial democracy in America. Together they discuss how the legal architecture of Jim Crow reemerges under neutral language, John Roberts’s decades-long campaign against the Voting Rights Act, Justice Kagan’s umbrella analogy, the suspension of Louisiana’s primary, the black church’s response, and why this midterm may be the country’s last political chance.
Mark Labberton hosts the Conversing podcast and is the Clifford L. Penner Presidential Chair Emeritus and Professor Emeritus of Preaching at Fuller Seminary.
Jemar Tisby is a New York Times bestselling author, historian, speaker, and professor of history at Simmons College of Kentucky, a historically black college in Louisville.
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