Assessing the legacy of a complicated papacy.

We are often told to contemplate our mortality, but how often do we contemplate our natality? In this episode, Jennifer Banks, author of the new book Natality: Toward a Philosophy of Birth, and Margarita Mooney Clayton, author of the essay “The Marian Gift of Dependence,” in our fall issue, talk about the ways that gaining a sense of our natality overcomes our more destructive tendencies of autonomy and control. The Virgin Mary in particular exhibits this kind of receptivity and dependence in a way that speaks to people of all walks of life.
Anne Snyder is the editor-in-chief of Comment magazine and host of The Whole Person Revolution.
Jeff Reimer is an associate editor of Comment magazine.
Jennifer Banks is senior executive editor at Yale University Press.
Margarita Mooney Clayton is an associate professor at Princeton Theological Seminary and founder of Scala Foundation.
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